by Chrislewis
1:16 pm by Chrislewis
Tags: assassin's creed the fall, daniel cross, webcomic
Daniel has to face the consequences of actions he does not yet understand…
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LooneyTexan said on June 20, 2012
and so Daniel ran through the window, took a leap of faith and became a model for UbiWorkshop.
Lexter said on June 20, 2012
so that’s how to be a model for ubiworkshop Lol
Jaroslaw Palys said on June 20, 2012
And had haircut and grew beard while falling
LooneyTexan said on June 20, 2012
it was a long fall.
Anja R. said on June 20, 2012
and also stole some rings from doves that passed by and used them as piercings
LooneyTexan said on June 20, 2012
might have used all that dove guano to style his hair.
Anja R. said on June 20, 2012
well at least he’s partly back to his old self (fuck ^^)
Russell Sparrow said on June 20, 2012
I was so moved when he said “I thought you were better than this.”
Ooh, emotions! 
He’s like an old school romantic who still believes in fair play with the enemy. Then he gets blindsided by such a cowardly tactic as this!
Me want Chain
Luke said on June 20, 2012
Templars are just too devious…
Al said on June 20, 2012
I’m ashamed to say that the first time I read this issue I thought the person on the cover was a female assassin.
(S)He sorta looked like The Boss from Metal Gear Solid.
MysticHeero said on June 21, 2012
you are not the only one. Before i knew about Daniel’s new look I thought it was a new female character too. XD oops.
LooneyTexan said on June 21, 2012
that female assassin would have been too flat chested to be female, no?
Al said on June 21, 2012
Not all women are endowed with pronounced chests. Heck, some men have bigger chests compared to other women.
pedgz said on June 21, 2012
i’m trying to read between the lines of daniel’s words after he did the deed and i am wondering how far deep into his mind did abstergo rape it? i mean if we look forward into the next few pages on what he (will do) did after killing the mentor, well, is that on his own will or was he still under control?
Al said on June 22, 2012
Well, he probably had to go back to abstergo to relay all the info he gathered. Also he might still be trying to synchronize with Nikolai’s memories because at the end they show Daniel looking at them while on a boat to the Americas. So they probably need to know what happened to the shard and Nikolai picking up Connor’s trail?
Others things I’m curious about is if Daniel learned Russian as soon as he learned to speak or was it a result of the bleeding effect. Was he abandoned as soon as he was born? Who took him to that Lineage Discovery place, and why? Also how did Hannah find him at the bar? Gotta read the comics again.
pedgz said on June 23, 2012
yes, we all know he spilled the info to abstergo. what i meant was did daniel felt that desperate and alone to come to a decision that the only way for him after killing the mentor was to go back to abstergo? was this on his own 100% free will or he was still controlled in a way? it’s like his mind is being ripped apart by two opposing forces: his free will and the templar will implanted in his brain. and regardless which, is he aware of his actions later on (exposing all assassin strongholds, for example) or not? if you look at the final page [SPOILER WARNING] you see tears in his eyes. what could those tears mean?
Al said on June 23, 2012
I think it was both: he was controlled but he also wanted to go. As soon as he returned to Abstergo he begged to be put back in the Animus and at the same time he was instructed to bring back the info. Murdering the Mentor must’ve jarred him enough to realize/remember that he’s indoctrinated. His mind was raped by abstergo when he was just a kid, so for him to remember to go back there once he was an adult must either mean the indoctrination was still active or he made regular visits without even being aware of it.
As for exposing the locations of Assassin compounds, I think it depends on when he revealed them. If he reported them before killing the Mentor then he seemed pretty unaware that he did such a thing. But if it was after the kill, then it means he was programmed to return to Abstergo. Either way his mind is controlled AND it’s messed up from prolonged exposure to the animus.
I’m not sure about his tears, trauma from current event using the animus, or
The last couple pages, for me, are hard to read because some of the words are printed on dark backgrounds.
Luke said on June 23, 2012
Daniel didn’t want to do any of this, but he knew that after killing the Mentor he couldn’t possibly continue being an Assassin. Why he went to Abstergo is unknown, but he definitely couldn’t survive forever without Templar protection, especially since he’ll remember something Nikolai did at an inconvenient time and blow his cover. I think it’s partially survival instinct, though it definitely seems likely that Abstergo programmed something into his brain to make him return.
MysticHeero said on June 21, 2012
well if something was going to screw the balance Daniel had managed to achieve in his mind it would be this. About time he reverted back from the perfectly well behaved person he was there. Sorry Daniel – we like you better when you’re half out of your mind and a rude little sod.
LooneyTexan said on June 22, 2012
i wonder if the assassins would take daniel back into their fold if he repented of his actions
and left the templar order for good.
Al said on June 22, 2012
Dunno if he can leave if he never joined. He was made into a puppet since he was a child and it looks like his mental health is almost as bad as Subject 17′s. Only difference so far is that 17 saw the memories of many ancestors while 4 only sees one ancestor (so far). If there’s any other reason for this other than Daniel not having been exposed to the animus for as long as 17, I don’t know.
There’s also the question of bringing Daniel back. We know Hannah, above most, will probably want to know why. But how will they get him from Abstergo? With limited man power and only a hunch that Daniel might be as important as Desmond, probably the only way he’d end up in Assassin hands would be by pure luck.
Ryan Uselmann said on June 22, 2012
Do you mean Subject 16 (Clay)? Since Desmond is Subject 17.
Al said on June 23, 2012
Oh yeah! I meant Subject 16. Thanks for catching that.
I haven’t played ACR yet so didn’t know S16 name is Clay.
Just received word from Amazon that they’ll be restocking soon and mine should arrive by the 28th!
Luke said on June 23, 2012
Not to mention that Daniel is a full-fledged Templar now, and it’ll be difficult to convince him to ditch them. It’s possible that most Assassins don’t even know why Daniel killed the Mentor–they probably think he was a sleeper agent in the conventional sense, and that he deliberately betrayed the Assassins.
Al said on June 23, 2012
I think that’s exactly the impression the Assassins were under: they thought Daniel was some sort of Messiah/Prophet figure who was receiving visions of Time and messages of the universe from the Mentor (it was actually Nikolai who was given those visions from the Staff). Maybe a handful might’ve been hesitant to trust him at first but they quickly become ensorceled by his honeyed words (they very same words that abstergo probably told him to say, but made him think that they were his own).
I wouldn’t consider Daniel a Templar. He’s a puppet enthralled by them, and we know nothing about his past before Lineage Discovery. I’m just guessing that he was abandoned as a baby and someone must’ve took him there in hopes of finding out his past when he grew a bit older. LA, being a subsidary of abstergo, sends daniel as a gift. I don’t think he has any loyalty to the Templars, nor does he see them as his caretakers/guardians, and only returned because he was controlled and he knew that the only way to dull his insanity/grief was to bury himself in the animus. Despite his madness, I think he would take every opportunity to redeem himself.
I haven’t played ACR yet so don’t know if Lucy is alive. But she was away from the Assassins for seven years. How many of them was with the Templars, not sure. But she seemed to have access to records of other test subjects so might be aware that S4 is actually Daniel. The purging of Assassins probably started & certainly finished when she was at abstergo since Vidic said they were cleaning up all the hideouts for a year. If lucy was there for more than a year then she might’ve even seen Daniel and is/was aware of the part he played in the downfall of the Assassins.
Andre said on June 26, 2012
I won’t tell you what happens in ACR, but you’ll find out pretty early what happened in Desmond’s time, post Brotherhood. My attitude is, if Lucy was away from the Assassins, who knows if she wasn’t brainwashed a little as well, just to keep the employees loyal to their work?
I’d love to see if Daniel’s story overlaps Desmond’s or S16′s soon. The Desmond plot line is still unknown, so who knows what we’ll get in AC3.
Al said on June 26, 2012
I’ll be able to play it in about 2 days!!!
I definitely agree that there is a possibility that Lucy is with the Templars. She might even be working with them willingly because she started believing in their ideals. Could she have been pretending to save Desmond in AC1 & 2 just to gain his trust? Based on what Vidic said in the second game, she sounded like a person who was, at the very least, conflicted between scientific advancements at any cost and humane moralities? She even expressed shreds of loyalty to Vidic because he “saved” her, even though in Project Legacy they showed that he was the who orchestrated her kidnapping. How could someone of her caliber be so gullible to think that? To think that she may actually want to be there of her own free will…
Andre said on June 27, 2012
Great!
Agreed, I’ve been through ACR and I still am not sure. Plus, there’s some controversy over the difference between the game’s storyline regarding Lucy, & the comic, so who knows. I want to believe that she wasn’t another Templar sleeper, but who knows… I think Lucy’s story is much like David Cross’s. Much confliction.
Regardless of David’s supposed innocence, he betrayed the entire Brotherhood resulting in many many deaths, David has to die. He can never redeem himself and he’s too dangerous to leave alive. Perhaps he’ll cross Desmond’s path and Desmond will need to end David.
pedgz said on June 24, 2012
*wishes the discussion above happened in the chain thread, but it’s all good.*
why do i have this nagging feeling that daniel is going to pull off a gollum in the end?
Al said on June 24, 2012
Oh, man I really can’t wait to read The Chain. But I’m hoping he’ll pull off a smeagol instead!
But if he does a gollum it’ll go something like this.
“This way Master Miles, my precious. Careful, long fall it is. Very long fall…” *sees staff shard hanging around Desmond’s neck* “My preciousssss…” (haystack)
pedgz said on June 24, 2012
smeagol, gollum, well we can’t really tell which one took control there – but we all know what happened in the end at mount doom with him.
okay, just for the sake of it, i have a nagging feeling daniel will pull off an anakin just like at the end of “jedi.”
love that shard bit , man. my precioussss indeed.
pierre s. said on June 24, 2012
Honestly, that was a very sad moment..